Wheelies and endo's

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b_lucus

Discussion Starter · Jun 4, 2010

Let me guess, another noob asking stupid questions?
I am currently trying to pull wheelies and am succeeding to a point. I take of and clutch it up at 7 or 8000 rpm and sit back in the seat and lean slightly back. so far i have managed to get the front wheel about a foot off the ground for about a second or two. Im now thinking of doing the 14t/53t conversion to get it up earlier in the rpm.

Does anyone else practice these and have pointers how to perfect it or know how easier it is to pull one with the new sprocket arrangement?

Thanks and i know there are going to be nah sayers out there and thats cool, its just i dont want to hear it unless its constructive.

btw im on a mc19

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Chrissybenn

· #2 · Jun 4, 2010

Give it more throttle when you pull the clutch in, don't redline it tho. Lol. Where about are you letting the clutch out at? 12,000?

I've been practising the wheelies too lol, I'll wait and see what everyone else sats tho

BriZer

· #3 · Jun 4, 2010

Holy crap!!! You can wheelie a mc19?!!!!! Serious?!

The only time I got it up was on a 45degree angle driveway... and that was just a hop!! They're just heavy bitches lol

Drifty

· #4 · Jun 4, 2010

I used to be able to do it on my mc19.
my advice? dont bother, wait till ur on a bigger bike.

stoppies are cool tho, altho werent very easy with the single disc of the mc19..

Big Al

· #5 · Jun 4, 2010

Yeah, wait until you're on a bigger bike. You're just gonna root your clutch.

richo

· #6 · Jun 4, 2010

Drifty said:
I used to be able to do it on my mc19.
my advice? dont bother, wait till ur on a bigger bike.

stoppies are cool tho, altho werent very easy with the single disc of the mc19..

Serious? When there wasn't fork oil all over the brakes on my 19 it stoppied easy as hell!

I can still wheelie and stoppie it pretty easy, although I'm trying to behave, it's only a matter of time before something important falls off the bike :/

b_lucus

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jun 4, 2010

Chrissybenn said:
Give it more throttle when you pull the clutch in, don't redline it tho. Lol. Where about are you letting the clutch out at? 12,000?

I've been practising the wheelies too lol, I'll wait and see what everyone else sats tho

slow take off and then letting the clutch out at 7000 or 8000 rpm and then full throttle. im getting quite comfortable doing that but im thinking of getting a stearing dampener as i have found if i preload the front suspention first i can get it a little higher but once its up i tend to turn the bar a bit and im scarred ill stack it once i come back down.

f the clutch, my motto is first you break it,
then you up-grade it

as for doin it on a bigger bike, if i get this down pat on a 250 imagine what ill be able to do on a bigger bike in a years time

Cerberus

· #8 · Jun 4, 2010

clutch wheelies - theory is pretty much the same with all the bikes.. twist the throttle, slip the clutch with one finger to build revs up, release fast but smoothly.. revs and how much throttle will vary of course pending the bike. Biggest problem i see when ppl learn is to clutch then rev it out.. thats wrong and actually pretty bad for the engine.. load it up first then slip the clutch. thats it.. start small and take your time unless you want to loop it!

of course.. looping it is always a danger! advice would be to of course practice on a quiet street too

stoppies are easy.. just start small. its actually a good skill to have as it will teach you good brake control and emergency stops

[hr]

b_lucus said:
slow take off and then letting the clutch out at 7000 or 8000 rpm and then full throttle. im getting quite comfortable doing that but im thinking of getting a stearing dampener as i have found if i preload the front suspention first i can get it a little higher but once its up i tend to turn the bar a bit and im scarred ill stack it once i come back down.

dont need a damper.. relax your arms. you are most likely pulling the bar to the right as you are gripping the throttle (tho could be the other hand).. either way hold on with your legs and relax your arms

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b_lucus

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jun 4, 2010

Cerberus said:
clutch wheelies - theory is pretty much the same with all the bikes.. twist the throttle, slip the clutch with one finger to build revs up, release fast but smoothly.. revs and how much throttle will vary of course pending the bike. Biggest problem i see when ppl learn is to clutch then rev it out.. thats wrong and actually pretty bad for the engine.. load it up first then slip the clutch. thats it.. start small and take your time unless you want to loop it! of course.. looping it is always a danger! advice would be to of course practice on a quiet street too

stoppies are easy.. just start small. its actually a good skill to have as it will teach you good brake control and emergency stops [hr]

b_lucus said:

slow take off and then letting the clutch out at 7000 or 8000 rpm and then full throttle. im getting quite comfortable doing that but im thinking of getting a stearing dampener as i have found if i preload the front suspention first i can get it a little higher but once its up i tend to turn the bar a bit and im scarred ill stack it once i come back down.

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dont need a damper.. relax your arms. you are most likely pulling the bar to the right as you are gripping the throttle (tho could be the other hand).. either way hold on with your legs and relax your arms

well you have hit the nail on the head with my right arm turning the bars. ill try that. will have to get a pic so i actually see how high i can get it.

as for not keeping the throttle fully open, i think its almost impossible to get it up with out full throttle.

another question: does anyone else get the bars becoming light under hard throttle when changing into second? i read that the mc19 has a 54t rear sprocket and im guessing it pulls like it does? anyone with ideas?

dayeve

· #10 · Jun 4, 2010

Stop watching "how to wheelie" videos on youtube. Go out and practice.

Drifty

· #11 · Jun 4, 2010

b_lucus said:
another question: does anyone else get the bars becoming light under hard throttle when changing into second? i read that the mc19 has a 54t rear sprocket and im guessing it pulls like it does? anyone with ideas?

I had to quote this for the lulz

b_lucus

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jun 4, 2010

Drifty said:
b_lucus said:

another question: does anyone else get the bars becoming light under hard throttle when changing into second? i read that the mc19 has a 54t rear sprocket and im guessing it pulls like it does? anyone with ideas?

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I had to quote this for the lulz

yeah yeah, hahaha. i just wanted to know if a mc22 had the same pull as a mc19 as the mc22 has a smaller rear sprocket therefore less acceleration? is this true?[hr]
Also has anyone who has done the 14/53 conversion been able to pull constant wheelies or at least bigger or longer wheelies?

richo

· #13 · Jun 4, 2010

I've toasted 2 (and counting) cbr clutches so far being a tool on them...

Gagginforit

· #14 · Jun 4, 2010

b_lucus said:
Let me guess, another noob asking stupid questions?

blah blah blah

cool, its just i dont want to hear it unless its constructive.

btw im on a mc19

Problem in bold~!

lolitsjoel

· #15 · Jun 4, 2010

Gagginforit said:
b_lucus said:

Let me guess, another noob asking stupid questions?

blah blah blah

cool, its just i dont want to hear it unless its constructive.

btw im on a mc19

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Problem in bold~!

there ain't no problems with wheelies on an mc19

Gagginforit

· #16 · Jun 4, 2010

lolitsjoel said:
Gagginforit said:

b_lucus said:

Let me guess, another noob asking stupid questions?

blah blah blah

cool, its just i dont want to hear it unless its constructive.

btw im on a mc19

Click to expand...

Problem in bold~!

Click to expand...

there ain't no problems with wheelies on an mc19

If you can do it!

I struggled for a while had to ring the tits off it to pop it up, did underestemated my 600 shortly after getting it!

crazylegs

· #17 · Jun 4, 2010

ive always wanted to try these but too afraid of by bike either throwing me off and jumping all over my head, or exploding into a fireball.... also i have arrowmaxs on and feel the front will just lock up....and try and kill me if i try stoppies.

steadyeddie

· #18 · Jun 4, 2010

i can pop some little wheelies on my MC19, but only a second and a half long max.
im letting the clutch out slow to load then fast rest of the way.
so the engine is only at high RPM when the load is on.

In cars im told revving high RPM without the engine loaded can break
engine rings or something...

it'll b more fun on a 400cc+

richo

· #19 · Jun 4, 2010

[email protected] Arrowmax sooking!!

Right. I've bloody put arrowmaxes on my bike now. The front will lock up on an ice cold tyre on a dodgy surface.

If there's any temp in them at all, then they'll do stoppies fine. That is assuming you're not just grabbing the brake as hard as humanly possible straight up. You can have whatever rubber you want, that's never a good idea. Setup and squeeze, just like normal braking.

Happy stoppies.

Ninexz

· #20 · Jun 4, 2010

richo said:
[email protected] Arrowmax sooking!!

Right. I've bloody put arrowmaxes on my bike now. The front will lock up on an ice cold tyre on a dodgy surface.

If there's any temp in them at all, then they'll do stoppies fine. That is assuming you're not just grabbing the brake as hard as humanly possible straight up. You can have whatever rubber you want, that's never a good idea. Setup and squeeze, just like normal braking.

Happy stoppies.

I've locked up my front trying stoppies with my 'stax.
I wasn't being a retard and grabbing the shit out of my lever either. setup & squeeze like you said. Only thing that was achieved was a little poo in my pants.

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